My Moms Funds

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Bobbi, Nov 27, 2015.

  1. Bobbi

    Bobbi Newbie

    My mother is in a nursing home with dementia and COPD and receives an SSI and a VA check for $90.00 monthly. Apparently VA somehow lost her in the system and she had not received her check for about 5yrs so they sent her $4500.00 for back pay. I am her POA and I did not know that she was not receiving her VA check as the nursing home receives both of her checks. They recently called me and told me that according to SSI standards she is now over the amount of money she is allowed to have and needs to do a spend down. Is her VA checks suppose to count towards an income as the nursing home is telling me it is or are they two separate things.

    Also, In trying to come up solutions for this spending down I ask if she could come and spend a week with me but they told me that they would have to do a medical evaluation because she has been there so long and is "facility institutionalized" and might not be safe. I have had her other times and no problems have ever occurred. I ask if her funds could pay for gas for me to come and get her and have her stay at my house for a week but told me "NO" as it would be considered a "gift" and she can not "gift" any of these funds to anyone. However,,, she could take a taxi to my house,,,I live 3 hours away and 120miles from her. They told me that I could take her on a cruise and have all expenses paid. Seems a little strange that I can take her on a cruise with no medical eval but I can't bring her to my house where all of family can have visits. In trying to come up with solutions this lady at the nursing told me that she was a little concerned that I would only want to have my mother around if there was money involved. Needless to say I hit the roof. I just don't know what to do. The way they are spending down her access as they call it is to buy her an ipod. This is a 88 yr old woman who wears glasses to thick you could start a forest fire with them and they want to buy an ipod with a screen that I have a hard time looking into.

    Sorry about the rant but I just don't know what to do and was so insulted by what this person said to me I'm about to crawl outta my skin. any help is appreciated. Thank you.
  2. Kaylin

    Kaylin Hero Member Staff Member


    I understand your concern and need to rant. This sounds like a strange situation that the nursing home is trying to put your mother in. I'm glad the VA did award your mother the VA check after 5 years without it. Is this check the VA is sending your mother specifically for the Aid and Attendance benefit?

    This website is mostly an expertise on the Aid and Attendance benefit. Unfortunately I cannot be an expert on giving you recommendations specifically for what to do with your mother regarding the nursing home as this is not anywhere near our expertise--especially with the physical evaluation they are claiming she would have to have in order to move into your home temporarily.

    What I can recommend to you is to stand your ground when it comes to what the nursing home is wanting to spend your mother's SSI and VA checks on. After all, that is HER money and you and her should be the ones that have a say in this matter since you are her POA.

    I hope we can help you with our forums and website, regardless. And wishing the best for your mother for her current predicament!
  3. vetadmin

    vetadmin Administrator Staff Member


    SSI is not the same as Medicaid, however, it seems to me that the nursing home is trying to count the VA money as income.

    If she is not in a VA nursing home, they are not entitled to that $90 A&A monthly money. It is to be spent on personal items for her.

    As a suggestion, if her final arrangements have not been made, then use these funds to put a down payment towards it. If she needs a new walker, or clothes or anything other than an i-pad to enhance her life or surroundings spend it on that.

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