Military Retirement vs A&A

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by NanaDeb, Oct 17, 2007.

  1. NanaDeb

    NanaDeb Newbie

    I am a first timer to this forum, which I have been reading for the past few weeks. Thank you so much for the info I have gleaned so far. My main concern now is this: my dad meets all the qualifications to receive the Aid and Attendance benefit, but he is retired from the Air Force after 20 years of service (1 yr in Viet Nam during the specified dates) and receives a military retirement pension. He is 75 years old now and has alzheimers. We have found an Assisted Living Facility to move him into in the next month. His military pension, SS and my mother's SS totalled will still not be enough for the ALF. But if they can get A&A, Mom will be able to scrape by. Will the fact that he already receives the military retirement affect whether or not he may receive the additional VA A&A benefit? I have not seen this addressed in any of the fact sheets I have read. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
  2. vetadmin

    vetadmin Administrator Staff Member

    Due to this being an extensive answer, this question was replied to in private e-mail correspondence.
  3. kathleen

    kathleen Newbie

    Dear VetAdmin,

    I have the same question, so I am hoping you can direct me to the necessary materials as well. My Dad is a WWII vet who went on to complete a 23 year career. He has military pension plus social security which together total up to less than the expenses for the assisted living home he now needs. We completed the A&A application and turned it in. I am trying to figure out whether he will still be able to get his military allotment. His disabilities are not service-related.

    The second question I have is that I read that a fiduciary might have to be appointed if there was any dementia. My Dad does have some dementia, but his disabilities are due to other medical conditions and he is still competent to manage his own affairs. He needs help only because his vision is so poor that he can barely read a few lines with extreme magnification. He has mobility problems due to medical problems.

    Thank you for your attention to my questions, and thank you for your great site.

  4. IrishMarie

    IrishMarie Newbie

    This is the same question I posed (but not as succinctly!), only it is for my mom - a spouse of retired veteran. Can she receive dad's army retirement AND and the A&A benefit?

    Thank you. :
  5. Skeeter

    Skeeter Newbie

    I, too, have the same question. I cannot find an answer to the question: Does my deceased father's Military Retirement income cause my mom to be ineligible for A&A?
  6. bumblebee

    bumblebee Newbie

    My mom receives a monthly widow's DIC check, and also qualified for A&A, but not the full amount. She receives an additional $271.00 monthly for A&A.
  7. vetadmin

    vetadmin Administrator Staff Member

    The retirement pension should be treated like any other pension income and medical expenses would be counted the same way. In other words, you would count the pension just as you would any other source of income. The fact that it is a military pension has no impact unless this was a service-connected death. That would be something entirely different.

    Your mom would be eligible assuming she meets all the other requirements.
  8. Skeeter

    Skeeter Newbie

    Thank you very much, Vetadmin! I appreciate the quick response.
  9. Mombat

    Mombat Newbie

    I'm trying to get my mom DIC and have just received my first letter back from the VA. My father was rated at 70% disablity;however he was receiving $ for 100%. Mom was trying to get him rated as 100% disabled when he died of cancer. Can you give me any advice on how you got he DIC for your mom? Thanks,
  10. cjb

    cjb Newbie

    Hi, when my Dad died, he was only rated at about 10% disability, for hypertension. The Army casualty officer who came to my Mom's house with a list of items to make sure we did and claimed (new will, health care power of attorney, insurance claims, gravestone, new ID card, etc.) took us to the VA where various papers were submitted. When the officer asked about filing for the DIC, the VA rep. said we might as well, there was no harm in asking for it. We were pleasantly surprised to get the full amount, which has gone up several times since then. The determination seemed to hinge on the death certificate listing hypertension as an underlying cause of death and the hypertension had already been determined to be service-related when the disability was granted. It looks like the amount of the DIC is probably not related to the amount of disability, just connecting the cause of death to the service.

    Hope that helps.
  11. Sandy

    Sandy searching for service-connected widows

    Generally speaking, to receive DIC (dependent's indemnity compensation) the widow's spouse has to have died of a disability rated 100%. The veteran must have died from the cause of his 100% disability OR died of some other cause while having been 100% disabled for a period of 10 years or more. In other words, if one is 100% disabled with PTSD for over 10 years but dies of cancer, the widow is eligible for DIC. DIC used to be rank based, but for some time it
    has been a flat rate, currently $1091. If there are dependent children, there is
    an additional amount. If one bought the Survivor Benefit Plan it is offset dollar
    for dollar by the DIC.
    One would not be awarded DIC if the rating was only 10%. There is more
    information not written here. Either the disability was increased because it lead to death or the VA determined that there was another cause...such as agent orange related cancer or something that lead to the death.
    Survivors can inquire for information from the Gold Star Wives of America
    site on the web.

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